"So, What Do You Do?"
This is often one of the first questions adult Americans ask each other when they are first introduced in a social setting. Maybe it's the same in other countries, I don't know. It's an obvious enough question to ask, and I guess it's a good way to get conversation going if you can't think of anything else to say. Maybe we think this is a way to get to know about someone else's interests; that someone's work or career can tell you a lot about who they are. Much of the time I don't think this is true. While there are people who would gladly do the work they love for free (I used to feel this way about acting, and thank goodness I was willing to do it for free because who was going to pay me?) most people do the work they do because they need to make a living. Maybe they came into that career by way of some other work they used to love but maybe it didn't pay as well, or pan out like they thought. Or maybe someone had an opportunity for them when they were out of work and they took it and found themselves still doing that same thing 20 years later? Maybe it's kind of related to what they always wanted to do, but not exactly. Whatever we do, however we get there, we usually have a paycheck to look forward to that helps us to provide for the things we need to live. If we enjoy what we do, then all the better. But do our jobs even loosely define us? Perhaps asking about someone else's interests outside of work would be a better way of getting to know them. Or is that too personal a topic for a first meeting? Maybe we're just all trying to be polite and really don't want to know anything about the other person that is significant? I'm not saying I know, I'm just trying to figure this out.
I ask because I was at a friend's house for a party a little while back and there were a lot of people about my age to whom I was introduced. I was already acquainted with some of the people and they knew I was a full time mom so they didn't ask me what I "did". But every person who I met for the first time asked me almost immediately what I "did" . And when you stay at home with your kids this becomes an entirely different question to have to answer. First off the thing you notice is people don't usually ask, "What do you do for work" they just ask "What do you do?" and of course you know that they mean:"What is the job that you do to make money?" I used to get asked this question when I worked outside of the house and I'd prattle on a little about the details of my work and sometimes people were kind of interested, and sometimes not and depending on what I was doing at the time for work I would get different questions. I didn't particularly ever care to talk much about work (especially while I was off the clock) but hey, if someone cares enough to ask, I should talk about it a little, right? And why on earth should someone ask that question unless they are truly curious about what you do? Well, the irony here is that now that I'm doing something I love- being with the most important people in my life, trying to raise them right, trying to show them that there is love in the world, despite all the ugly, crazy things people do, now that I finally have something to talk about, stories that would make you laugh and cry in the same minute, something I can share with enthusiasm, experience, and knowledge (however little) and above all with heart- no one really wants to hear about it.
Of course there are people in my life who care about what I do. But someone who doesn't know a thing about me, only my first name and what I look like, asks me what I do and I tell them I'm a full time mom and then they smile weakly and go, "Oh?" and that's that. No more questions. I would say about 8 times out of 10 this is the reaction I get. The other 2 are from folks like me who are there, or who have been there. They get it and I don't need to tell them what I do because they already know. I never ask people what they do anymore. If someone is excited about their work and they want to tell me all about it, then cool! I'm happy to hear that other people enjoy what they do; They should.
And I do. And it doesn't matter a lick if no one else in the whole world cared a bit about what I did. Yeah, it makes you feel like a little like an outcast, and I can't help but wonder what these people meeting me are thinking:
"Oh, she must be wealthy to be able to afford to stay home." -Are these the clothes and hair style of a wealthy woman?
"Maybe she can't get work"-Maybe I just adore the little buggers and can't bear to be away from them.
"Perhaps she's just lazy"-Clearly you have never spent time with children!
Anyway, I really don't presume to know what others are thinking about me. On a good day I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. On a bad day it feels the world is out to get me. I'm curious though what reactions other stay-at-home-parents get from strangers. And how do you respond, or should I say...what do you do?
I ask because I was at a friend's house for a party a little while back and there were a lot of people about my age to whom I was introduced. I was already acquainted with some of the people and they knew I was a full time mom so they didn't ask me what I "did". But every person who I met for the first time asked me almost immediately what I "did" . And when you stay at home with your kids this becomes an entirely different question to have to answer. First off the thing you notice is people don't usually ask, "What do you do for work" they just ask "What do you do?" and of course you know that they mean:"What is the job that you do to make money?" I used to get asked this question when I worked outside of the house and I'd prattle on a little about the details of my work and sometimes people were kind of interested, and sometimes not and depending on what I was doing at the time for work I would get different questions. I didn't particularly ever care to talk much about work (especially while I was off the clock) but hey, if someone cares enough to ask, I should talk about it a little, right? And why on earth should someone ask that question unless they are truly curious about what you do? Well, the irony here is that now that I'm doing something I love- being with the most important people in my life, trying to raise them right, trying to show them that there is love in the world, despite all the ugly, crazy things people do, now that I finally have something to talk about, stories that would make you laugh and cry in the same minute, something I can share with enthusiasm, experience, and knowledge (however little) and above all with heart- no one really wants to hear about it.
Of course there are people in my life who care about what I do. But someone who doesn't know a thing about me, only my first name and what I look like, asks me what I do and I tell them I'm a full time mom and then they smile weakly and go, "Oh?" and that's that. No more questions. I would say about 8 times out of 10 this is the reaction I get. The other 2 are from folks like me who are there, or who have been there. They get it and I don't need to tell them what I do because they already know. I never ask people what they do anymore. If someone is excited about their work and they want to tell me all about it, then cool! I'm happy to hear that other people enjoy what they do; They should.
And I do. And it doesn't matter a lick if no one else in the whole world cared a bit about what I did. Yeah, it makes you feel like a little like an outcast, and I can't help but wonder what these people meeting me are thinking:
"Oh, she must be wealthy to be able to afford to stay home." -Are these the clothes and hair style of a wealthy woman?
"Maybe she can't get work"-Maybe I just adore the little buggers and can't bear to be away from them.
"Perhaps she's just lazy"-Clearly you have never spent time with children!
Anyway, I really don't presume to know what others are thinking about me. On a good day I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. On a bad day it feels the world is out to get me. I'm curious though what reactions other stay-at-home-parents get from strangers. And how do you respond, or should I say...what do you do?
7 Comments:
At 8:09 PM, Alyssa said…
I never ask people what they do. If it is interesting, it'll come up in some other way. Most of the time it isn't that interesting....
I was at the same party and I learned that a friend of two years works with someone else I know - but I never knew they worked together because I never pursued "what do you do."
Besides, as I recall you were the life of that party and you got people who are notorious for being non-chatty to blabber like there was no tomorrow.
At 9:31 AM, Anonymous said…
I've observed that within my own family (siblings). Years ago, both my sisters married within a year of each other, in their early 20's. One had children right away, the other went straight to work to play that whole corporate game. For ten years the corporate one kept asking the mom one when she was "getting a job". The mom one blew it off over and over again, but did get sick of it. Then, after ten years, the corporate one had children, quit her day job, and the other went back to work. Now the former-corporate goes on and on about how she'll "be a stay at home mom for as long as she wants!" and seems to have forgotten her insistence that my other sister do something "real" and not just "hang out at home".
Most people just have no clue the reality of circumstances until they are in those circumstances themselves.
If it's ANY consolation, people who ask you those questions to make small talk usually don't think of you, or the conversation, ever again once they are on to the next victim.
At 9:34 AM, Cat Jordan said…
I recall only once that I got a negative vibe from saying I was a SAHM, and it was from a woman I'm fairly certain was jealous she was not. I could care less what other people think about me staying home. You are doing the coolest thing ever by being the primary caretaker of your children, Kristen, and YOU know that, so what else matters? I haven't really had to mingle at a party of peers where I was in the minority, though, so maybe I would feel a bit differently. I usually socialize at the library or church functions where we are the majority so I never have felt like an odd man out. You are a full-time mother, a Domestic Engineer! I will tell you that recently, in revising my resume, I put my current job as a Stay At Home Parent, and bulleted my important tasks (time management, conflict resolution, multi-tasking, customer service, lol) and I stand by my CAREER! You go girl, love you!
At 9:59 AM, Kristen said…
Lyss-Hey, what makes you think it was that party I was talking about? Oh, that's right...I've only been to 2 in the last three years and they were both at your house...
Jody-The only thing I knew for certain before I became a mom was that I knew I wanted to be home with my kids when they were little. I used to work as a teacher at a day care center (a very good one) and still I left knowing I would never make my child go to one of the places. It's not good for anyone- except the corporations that count the money. Everyone else loses out, especially the kids. Yeah, it's funny the ideas you get in your head before you have children. The parent version of me couldn't be more different than the old me. Um, I mean the young me.
Cat-Thank you Cat and right back at ya. You know that I don't doubt for a second that I'm doing the right thing. I don't look for pats on the back from other people, but it seems weird that no one would be curious about the details of my "job". I anticipate fielding questions like, "what's it like to stay at home all day with little kids? Do you ever feel isolated? How do you respond to the prevailing "feminist" attitude that women who stay home aren't living up to their potential, but men who stay at home are "devoted fathers"? I'd love to talk about what I do but maybe people already think they know what I do? Maybe I need to write a book?? Maybe in fifteen years or so...By then I will have forgotten everything.
At 4:06 PM, Anonymous said…
Kristen, to continue this based on your latest comments:
I've always been fascinated by why so many women (well, people of both genders in general) feel that sitting stiffly in some office chair all day under the glare of flourescent lights while you quiver in fear of your "boss" is supposed to be more fulfilling then running your own household and rearing your own children. All I learned in the corporate world was how to "kiss up" to a boss who liked to act like she owned me while my entire life was put on hold because I had to be on call 24/7 for HER Not on call for MY family or children (don't have children but you get the point), not my hobbies or interests or for my home, but for HER, a "boss" whose existance really carried no weight in who I was as a person. And I'm thinking "here I am stuck in this; why do so many women WANT this!" It was a very empty feeling. I've always admired women who can manage to find the true meaning of fullfillment in essentially being their OWN boss as the head of the OWN household. The corporate world is cold and I just don't see the appeal.
Footnote to this would be that I did manage to escape that corporate world myself and although I still have a sit-down office job it is much more relaxed. It pays a lot less than the other job but that's a choice I made for my own happiness--and sanity! My "baby" is performing in theatre, and I finally am able to do that again!
At 10:58 PM, Anonymous said…
Have you read Naomi Wolf's book Misconceptions? It's great... She does a whole chapter on that very topic - talked about how no one would talk to her at parties when she said the famous phrase "I stay at home with my children." Like she has NO brain and nothing interesting to say OR share.
I don't have the opportunity to mingle with "WOHMs" and others as my huz is in the military and most of the ladies stay home. In fact, I have the opposite issue in that I do still work a few hours each week, and do other things (academic writing) and I find sometimes I like to talk about that and no one wants to chat about that.
OR, I love to talk about the dirty baby stuff - not how great and faboo it is - but you know, bitch. AND no one wants to do that. *sigh* Now I blog :)
At 8:05 PM, Kristen said…
Kristen- I'm familiar with some of
Wolf's work but haven't read that particular book. I think often people don't know how to respond because they're expecting you to tell them about your "job" and they their standard list of questions might not apply. Though some still would- Q:"How's the pay?" A: "It sucks" Q:"What are your hours?" A:"On call 24/7" Q:"What's your boss like?" A:"I've got two- they are tough as nails, they don't miss a beat and if I screw up, it really affects them and the whole business. But I totally love them and they are so cute when they're sleeping."
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